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@WikiEnthusiast1001Not an official portrait nor does Khan reside in the White House, Really? Seriously? Was he visiting the White House in a personal capacity? He was on an official visit, and he is posing—I don’t see an involuntary photo capture there. That makes it an official portrait. And who cares whether he lived in the White House or if it’s an office photo? It’s from his time in office. The idea was to use an official portrait in the infobox, just like Jimmy Carter, and use the June 2023 photo to show how he looked before his final arrest. But oh well! Sheriff | ☎ 911 | 01:19, 14 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Its not an official portrait, this is misleading. It's cropped from a meeting with Trump and I don't see how he looks younger or better. By your logic, we might as well use photos from 2012 when he looked even younger. Also, please focus on improving the COVID section, as CMD noted it reads more like a newspaper article than an encyclopedic entry. WikiEnthusiast1001 (talk) 22:00, 14 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@WikiEnthusiast1001 CMD noted that the section in the main article, which was mostly contributed by you here and copied over to that article, had issues. If content contributed by you in the past had issues, new content you add might have similar problems. Please do not expand the section further, as the article is already overly lengthy, and expanding it would not be helpful. Even if the image is not an official portrait, it is preferable to use one from his time in office, as evident from other GA articles on heads of state. This is the best one I could find from that period. Sheriff | ☎ 911 | 01:29, 15 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Blind application and misinterpretation of NPOVN discussion
@WikiEnthusiast1001 The discussion at the NPOVN forum does not give you a pass to blindly remove or reduce criticism. Firstly, the discussion there pertains to the content in the main article, where the content in question was much more extensive than what is present in this article. I have already significantly reduced the criticism in the main article, and it was already minimal in this article. Nowhere in that discussion did the uninvolved editors state that criticism could simply be removed or reduced; their statements were qualified and context-dependent. That being said, I do not agree with your recent reduction of criticism further. Sheriff | ☎ 911 | 17:09, 15 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Regarding your edit summary, I did not use an opinion piece. Can you point out where it states that it's an opinion piece? I'm also directly following CMD's suggestion from the noticeboard: "The immediate reactions and commentary of journalists, other politicians, military figures, etc. should not receive much space, and the wikitext should not offer commentary either." WikiEnthusiast1001 (talk) 23:37, 16 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
That is an opinion piece by an unknown author from New York, written in the style of an opinion piece. As for CMD's comment, they said, "should not receive much space," which does not equate to "not receive any space." That space had already been reduced by me. Additionally, their comments do not apply to the content in this article. The content under discussion was entirely different from what is included here. Sheriff | ☎ 911 | 01:05, 17 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
This applies to the section dealing with the nature of Imran's connection to the military. If sources use wording such as "widespread rumours", "was widely perceived", "was widely regarded", "it is widely believed", don't use them in this BLP. Use reliable sources which make direct statements. Burrobert (talk) 11:08, 28 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@SheriffIsInTown what policy or guideline states that a section contributed by multiple people cannot be reverted? WP:BRD does not have any thing about not being able to remove something contributed by multiple people, and it is best to remove the section until consensus is reached for its inclusion. I have stated the reason for its removal already: It does not fit at all in “Public Image”. It relies on 3-4 news reports/books for some old commentary, not at all mentioning his criticism of the military, especially General Bajwa (a serious NPOV violation). There is already enough information on his relationship spread throughout the article, including his removal from office explaining this. Its an unnecessary section to an article already claimed to be too long.Titan2456 (talk) 16:40, 3 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
You cannot remove content that is supported by highly reliable sources simply by citing WP:BRD, which is an essay. My point is that you are just one editor and should not unilaterally remove content added by multiple editors merely because you disagree with it. If the content is properly sourced, it should remain unless you can establish a valid reason for its removal. You cannot invoke your tendency of censoring any content you perceive as critical of your preferred leader and remove it arbitrarily. Sheriff | ☎ 911 | 17:09, 3 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I have given several valid reasons in both my edit summary and the comment above, none of which have been contested by any editors. To be succinct, no guideline or policy says every bit of sourced content must be included and cannot be excluded, otherwise articles would go to a million words. Hence, WP:BRD is the best choice, to establish consensus for this new section to be included. I will go ahead with removing the section, but best to keep this thread open and tag all contributors to this section for a discussion on why it should be included before reinstating it. The last sentence is heavily unwarranted for a talk page discussion, I have never brought up your publicly declared support of the Pakistan Muslim League Nawaz and its leader in any talk page discussion, unless you want me to. Titan2456 (talk) 18:06, 3 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
No, you may not arbitrarily remove the content. You have not provided any valid reason for its removal. While no policy states that all sourced content must be included, likewise, no policy permits an editor to simply remove reliably sourced information without a valid justification. The word OPTIONAL is written in bold at WP:BRD—you cannot use that as a justification for removal. Which core Wikipedia policy requires that this content must be removed immediately, other than your own personal preference? That is not a valid reason for removal. Sheriff | ☎ 911 | 19:53, 3 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
This is the third time I am posting this here, I put in in the edit summary, and talk page, I even put in in italics for you, yet you claim I haven’t provided a reason? Ignoring it for the fourth time is textbook WP:IDHT:
It does not fit at all in “Public Image”. It relies on 3-4 news reports/books for some old commentary, not at all mentioning his criticism of the military, especially General Bajwa (a serious NPOV violation). There is already enough information on his relationship spread throughout the article, including his removal from office explaining this. Its an unnecessary section to an article already claimed to be too long.Titan2456 (talk) 23:21, 3 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
level-5 vital article is rated C-class on Wikipedia's content assessment scale.
Done Link added. LizardJr8 (talk) 21:43, 12 April 2025 (UTC)